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Subsidize This: US Eyes Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels, But What Gets Protected?

Firedoglake -- While trade is often a bone of contention between the U.S. and China, this week’s visit by Chinese V. President Xi Jinping threw the spotlight on one subset of that battle that could have far-reaching effects well in excess of the raw dollar amounts at stake.

At issue is a complaint filed by a solar industry trade group, the Coalition for American Solar Manufacturing asking that the US government impose tariffs on Chinese solar panels. CASM wants the duties for what it claims are unfair subsidies by China that make Chinese solar products substantially cheaper than those offered by many US competitors.

indicate the federal govt set to weigh in on the side of US solar energy companies in this brewing trade war, and so make a stand for domestic green energy manufacturing and good-paying job


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Submitted Feb 19, 2012 By: DellDude2
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texasvet
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:59:06 PM

This is just a ploy by Obama to cadge more campaign contributions from the solar panel industry before the rest of them go broke.
bcok
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:55:19 PM

Here comes the Chinese.
CAD69
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:53:22 PM

It will work for a little while
TedNC
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:52:37 PM

ok
jorod55
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:51:00 PM

American Greed

They know who they are.
Travel1st
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:50:58 PM

I have stopped buying things made in China. It cuts down on quite a number of things available but at least I am not investing in the country that is buying our debt day by day. I am also worried that items that touch our skin and foods are toxic if they come from China.
China has manipulated their currency to an unfair advantage, but Wal Mart is happy they do as most of their goods come from China. Oops too much said already.
carman11
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:48:43 PM

OK
1Casey
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM

Dumb azz politicians will put some loop hole in the plan, and we will end up paying more.
nwsynthetics
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:47:03 PM

GREEN, GREEN, GREEN ARGH!
LSU_TIGERS_dmb
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:45:16 PM

What do you thick china would do. Also no one in the USA is buying green.
porotito
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:42:16 PM

People will buy something if it looks like a good deal...even if it comes from China or Canada.
nj2000ng
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:37:46 PM

ok
bdlewis
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:34:13 PM

We are so stupid
jetlagAK
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:32:19 PM

More failed barackanomics. Why ship our jobs overseas and then tax the imported products more?
Amendes
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:31:51 PM

OK
RitaVespa
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:30:50 PM

ok...
sillywagon
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:28:55 PM

If the Chinese Government wants to sell me some solar panels at below cost with the Chinese taxpayer footing the reduction... When it benefits the American consumer and costs the Chinese taxpayer... What problem is there? I don't see a problem? When China stops using it's taxpayers to subsidize export sales, then American manufacturers can start building solar panels.
livedream
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:25:02 PM

Goatroper has a good point:

"We need to be careful about applying tariffs without trade negotiations. It could backfire on us. Not that we need all the cheap plastic crap being imported by the ton, but we need them to be buying our products too."
firemunkee
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:24:45 PM

interesting
ropegun11
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:24:45 PM

...Ok, rx7racercarca, I digress:
...President Obama is a very good orator, wordsmith, spin-artist, etc...In reality, the actual "change" for the American people is less than "hope"ful... :/

...Happy now?

Kaiyne
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:23:11 PM

I agree with ExplorerWA
ExplorerWA
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:22:40 PM

A no win situation.
Bhmf4
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:20:43 PM

It is easy, pay Obama, and you will get subsidies and tariffs. No pay no play, that is the Chicago way.
NemoIL
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:19:48 PM

We need tariffs on all Chinese goods.
milespergallon
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:18:51 PM

There are so many issues here it will require someone with something more than book knowledge and the current occupant is 100% loser on this.
straz
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:16:55 PM

Look closely
Pointtx
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:15:51 PM

China is very good at playing the tariff game and the protectionism racket. As long as they continue to own so much of our manufacturing, they will continue to be successful at it, too.
Rockwoodband
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:15:01 PM

Yeah, that's it. Piss China off.
GLM4205
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:13:42 PM

No more subsidies.
SparkieMi
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:13:09 PM

Interesting...
camaro_man
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:12:49 PM

buy canadian then....
EmperorsFinest
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:11:43 PM

There has to be an end to subsidies. The Chinese always seem to be a step ahead of us. A tariff placed on the panels would then be reflected in the price that they would sell to us.I don't believe that we win either way.
TonyPSU
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:11:06 PM

a world economy is tough to deal with, especially when congress doesn't have clue on how to run the US economy. A change in DC is a must
PithyOpiner
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:10:49 PM

I don't know man. What if, in retaliation, the Chinese raise prices on all the stuff they sell to Wal-Mart. How would you like those apples?
cimilluca1
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:10:29 PM

No more subsidies.
knot2swift
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:08:03 PM

We need "Ricer's" to make cheap panels for us. Maybe we can help a country feed a population bent on breeding their brains out in return.

Seems like a "Win, Win".
Goatroper
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:06:45 PM

We need to be careful about applying tariffs without trade negotiations. It could backfire on us. Not that we need all the cheap plastic crap being imported by the ton, but we need them to be buying our products too.
abcdMA
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:05:56 PM

and even with the tarriff, the chinese models will be cheaper
ratones1
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:05:45 PM

interesting...
Manual_Shifter
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:05:21 PM

Only if it can be proven that they are selling at less than their cost of production. Otherwise, if the American Coalition can't compete then they should do what many other sectors are doing - make deals with the Chinese or have them do the manufacturing for the American Coalition.
davenles
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:01:47 PM

We need to even the field.
Yankee829
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:55:52 PM

Amen
Tucker1961
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:53:13 PM

I'm with flynfool
FlyNFool
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:52:30 PM

Tax the crap out of them!
fuelconscious
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:52:28 PM

Eventhough the cheaper solar panels are made in china, they still are priced to high for me.
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:51:22 PM

I suppose an upside is that it's good for the soul to see China playing the capitalist's game.
FrankTA2
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:47:10 PM

Good idea.
themaninthehat
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:41:03 PM

and there's something rotten in Denmark
herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:40:37 PM

Buy all the panels they make if they're losing money.
DEG
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:40:28 PM

It will only increase the price of solar panels to the US consumer.
DrLyon
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:36:43 PM

Keep working on solar, no matter...
rx7racerca
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:35:25 PM

ropegun11: "...President Obama is a very good orator, wordsmith, spin-artist, etc...but then, so was Adolf Hitler...In reality, the actual "change" for the American people is less than "hope"ful... :/"

Congrats on invoking Godwins law (use of the Reductio ad Hitlerem argument). The thread can now be closed as having quickly reached rock bottom for discussion quality.

Wikipedia - Reductio ad Hitlerum
Godwin's Law

[Edited by: rx7racerca at 2/19/2012 9:36:33 PM EST]
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